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nemesis
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Posted on 08-23-05 6:54
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Yes, Let's keep on rolling. Anti_monarqi, your turn please.
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Posted on 08-27-05 4:21
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Nepe- To weaken the king would be to strengthen the Maoists, whose victory could usher in a reign of even worse terror. Political parties have failed to control the Maoist problem. You just review the initiation of Maoist problem and asess the role of political parities and so called Nagarik Samaj (I mean only handful of them like Debendra raj, Mathura, Krishna Pahadi, etc). All they did was either instigating the Maoist or in many occasion directly or indirectly supporting them morally. Girija's shuttle from China to New Delhi just to make the Deuba Government's dialouge with Maoists failure is more than sufficient to justify it. What I never understand is what led you to believe that Maoist will easily agree to term and condition laid down by the political parties? They are not that honest and Buddhu as you think from here. They very much know that by defeating Monarchy and RNA means achieving their ultimate goal. Maoist can easily take on political parties who are alreday in defeat mentality. I am not advocating for active monarchy. Just because the Maoist does not want monarchy, we can not go blindly. Constututional monarchy is the need of the day. What I have not got answer so far is that what could have been the best alternate in October 2002 for King? You can not just jump in to conclusion by commenting post-2 Feb event. It has to be rather assessed and analyzed ever since the Maoist movement started, then you can get most of the answer easily. But to do such analysis you have to see from neutral perspective - you can not borrow a "Chasma" from Gagan, Narahari, Baburam or anyother clowns to see the sequence of events. Monarchy is an institution, and in constitutional monarchy, King barely have any power. All the power is vested with parliament and executive power remain with the PM and hsi cabinet. Preserving monarchy is also the continuation of our golden history. Why should we try to copy or change something which was never tested, never experienced and which will have tremendous risks to have many adverse effects (cultural, religious, geo-political, ethinic and what not) with no solid advantages. Do you want to keep on experimenting for another decades? Enjoy your weekend.
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Posted on 08-28-05 5:45
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PSCji, Here is reply. >To weaken the king would be to strengthen the Maoists Quite the contrary, PSCji. No monarchy = No good reason for the Maoists to rebel. Political parties + King = Maoists are freedom fighters So, to strengthen the monarchy [by political parties] is to strengthen the Maoists' raison d'etre [of democracy] and, hence, to strengthen them morally. > Political parties have failed to control the Maoist problem. Totally absurd. First, at the military front, it is the RNA that has failed, not the Political parties. Second, at the political front, The government (Political parties) never had a free hand to negotiate with the Maoists. The government's hands were chained to [the obligation of saving ] the monarchy [at any cost]. So, what actually political parties failed in is - to make a point to save the monarchy. That's what they failed in. You want to them to try again what they have already tried THREE times (peace talks) and failed. That too when they've got a new and stronger reason to get rid of the monarchy instead of saving it at any cost. It can't be more absurd. >so called Nagarik Samaj (I mean only handful of them like Debendra raj, >Mathura, Krishna Pahadi, etc). All they did was either instigating the >Maoist or in many occasion directly or indirectly supporting them morally. I wouldn't call it instigating and supporting. But you are right that the civic society has been soft on the Maoists. The why is obvious. Because while the Maoists have a WRONG ideology and method, their PURPOSE of getting rid of the monarchy is RIGHT. So, getting rid of monarchy is, as I said above, making the Maoists PURPOSELESS or an outfit with COMPLETELY wrong purposes [of establishing a communist republic]. When it happens, the civic society naturally will be hard on the Maoists [in case they refused to be part of the democratic republic]. Until then, and particularly when one is talking about strengthening the monarchy, you can not expect the civic society to be hard on the Maoists. It's simple as that. >what led you to believe that Maoist will easily agree to term and >condition laid down by the political parties? As I have repeated many times, there is no guarantee about the Maoists. So we need to talk in terms of LIKELIHOOD. The likelihood of the Maoists to agree to disarm for the republic is way way way way way more than the likelihood of the Maoists to agree to disarm for the constitutional monarchy. Let's put it this way, (exact numbers not important) The chances that the Maoists will agree to disarm for republic = 99% The chances that the Maoists will agree to disarm for C. Monarchy = 1% In this whole thread, your arguments (repeated on and on) is trying to convince that the chance (1%) of disarming the Maoists for C. Monarchy is greater than the chance (1%) that the Maoists will not disarm for the republic democracy. You are almost right, because 1% is almost greater than 1%. However, you are almost absolutely wrong because you are ignoring 99% chance described above. > what could have been the best alternate in October 2002 for King? Not only in October, but just about any day since 1996 (or whenever the Maoists were felt a power that can not be ignored) to this very day, the best thing for the King (yes, Birendra included) to do was letting the PEOPLE to decide what they say about the monarchy. It could be a referendum. It could be a Constitutional Assembly. Look what is the King doing ? Is it surprising that he is getting support from none of political parties', civic society and the international community ? > Preserving monarchy is also the continuation of our golden history. If Narayahity has a lot of gold, may be then a golden history. Otherwise what golden history ? Before 2007 saal, several generation of kings were nobody. After 2007 saal, Tribhuvan betrayed his initial commitment for sovereignty to the people and gradually acquired more and more power. Mahendra needless to talk about. Birendra followed his father's footsteps until Nepali people revolted. Gyanendra, we are seeing. Paras, we can guess. Is it a golden history or iron history ? OK, let's not answer this question. Let the people of Nepal answer this question in a Referendum or a CA. Fair enough ? > Why should we try to copy or change something which was never tested, > never experienced . . . Do you want to keep on experimenting for another >decades? Democratic republic is the ultimate democracy. So, it's not experimenting, but reaching there finally. On the contrary to what you say, restoring Constitutional monarchy will be experimenting and experimenting and experimenting the same thing that has failed and failed and failed. No more experiments with compromised democracy. That's the growing voice of Nepali people today. No more experiments. Straight to democracy. Nepe
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Posted on 08-28-05 6:13
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Nepe, 1. Monarchy will never give up throne without a bloodbath. 2. Maoists if they compromise with poltical parties and fight to bring republic. There will be communism. SO WHERE IS THE DEMOCRATIC FORCE WHO IS GONNA DEFEAT BOTH COMMUNISTS AND MONARCHY?? WHAT ABOUT THE COLAPSE OF MONARCHY AND RISE OF MAOISM?? Nepe please use your common sense for a while.
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Posted on 08-28-05 6:24
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Nepe, I agree with you about democracy. I aslo want democracy. But first of all I think peace and stability are the most important element. SO I am saying we need a common ground. All the three forces should be included. R Maoists willing to give up communism dreams?? Thats the worst thing that could happen to nation? How to remove corrupt and inept leaders? SO I think we need step by step move to total democracy and to fulfill the will of the people.
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Posted on 08-28-05 6:32
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Some more factors. 1. Creation of vigilian group. This is a scary development supported by governtment. Now there are small groups with weapons. There might be possibilty of armed resistance and possiblity of acts of terrorism. 2. Maoists in the power, big time human rights violation, possible genocide and how they deal with the international community is a big question. That will be total failure. 3. Democratic republic??? But how??
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Posted on 08-28-05 7:47
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Nepe - Deduction of your arguments are as following: 1) Monarchy and political parties have to surrender to Maoists and agree on all demand that they have made. 2) Maoists terrorism from 1996 to 2002 was mainly directed towards monarchy only, nothing to do with any thing else. 3) Maoist problem from 19996 is solely military problem hence it is failure of RNA not being able to control this problem (though mobilized only after 2002). It is not a political problem, therefore, there is no question of political failure. 4) There is no positive role of Shaha dynasty in Nepalese history. 5) Once the referendum or election for constitution assembly is held, all the problem of Nepal will be automatically die-down. Maoists will lay down their weapons and join mainstream politics. 6) Nagrik Samaj is having soft approach towards Maoists (support terrorism). 7) Democratic republic will be only solution to bring stability in Nepal and it is not an experiment (despite of grave differences within the major political parties). Maoist will also easily accept it. Nepe - let me tell you frankly, either you are out from Nepal for long time and you are too much influenced by media propaganda, or you have been so much indoctrinated to western world that you have forget our ground reality. It is not that easy as you have perceived. Your one sided assessment and suurendering attitude (towards Maoists) will lead to more problem than any solution. You can not discard monarchy at this stage which enjoys support of many royalists and also support from majority of neutral people (who are not directly aligned with any political parties). As I wrote in my previous thread, monarchy is not King Gyanendra or in future Paras, it is an institution which has become part of Nepalese history, culture, social and religious integrity and symbol of national unity. I know you will not agree, but this is the fact and reality. "Highfly" is talking very sensibly, he seems to be familiar of Nepalese reality. Monarchy in Nepal can not be a foe where as Maoists will never become firendly to democracy. Maoists might use your way of republicanism as a foothold to gain their way of republicansim. Bottomline - your way of republicansim will pave the way for Maoist to achieve victory for their cause. As long as RNA and monarchy together with democratic forces are united, Nepal will never have to experience the communism. Otherwise we will have new kind of experiment - communist totalitarian regime. I would be comfortable to live under constitutional monarchy than to live under communist regime. You are lucky, you don't have to live in Nepal hence do not have to experience any kind of regime. There is a very popular way of saying in (Russian way) Nepal sproski bigroski bhatoksoki timilai ke matlab?
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Posted on 08-28-05 8:04
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Posted on 08-28-05 8:50
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Friends, Since my post elsewhere on this forum on a similar topic went unheeded, I am repeating the same point here. In my view, nothing substantial can be gained, other than a coverage in the media, from the protests and black flag waving events. Every Prime Minister, minister or a leader from Nepal, who is solely or in part responsible for creating and perpetuating a mess we are in now, visited the US in the last decade and was accorded a warm and flattering reception. No blag flag or words of protests were uttered. From the pictures we have seen on the website, even Marichman Singh, under whose Prime Ministership during the Panchayat regime many democracy movement activists were gunned down cruelly, had quite a few admirers, or shall I say beneficieries, in the nation?s capital. When the king visits New York in September, I am would rather see him come to the community and have an interaction, provided he is willing. By community I do not mean a group of those willing chamchas or resurrected panchas and their off springs, and sycophants who would perform any act and continue to deceive the Nepali people at home and abroad. We espouse having a dialogue with the Maoists to find a peaceful solution to the prroblem, and why not with the king too? We see the pictures of the king talking to an old lady and other people during his recent tours of east and west Nepal, why not the king have a town hall type meeting with the Nepali communities living in the US. The controlled press in Nepal can have many pictures of the king interacting with the Nepali diaspora. I would particularly like the king to address the following in this interaction: 1. Give us a set of milestones with timeline and a clear road map to restore democracy within his proclaimed three-year direct rule. The king's six-month rule so far does not give much confidence. It is time that we knew clearly what his plans are to bring the democracy back. And, what kind of democracy does he plan to bring back? Hopefully, not the kind ridden with bad goverance and corruption much of the time during the Koirala and Deuba rule and certainly not the "soil suited" type. Other questions: a. Will you sit with the political parties and the Maoists to bring peace to the king? If yes, what are your conditions, if any, or plans to bring them to the negotiation table? What are your expectations from the political leaders and parties to restore peace and democracy? b. Will you take actions, not just to a selective few, but to also those, including the ones in the Palace and those hover around the palace, who have been involved in corruption in the last several years? What are his plans to weed out corruption? c. What is your vision for Nepal and Nepalis? I would think that the king would be willing to take the opportunity to come and speak to the Nepali communities in as many cities in the US as he could during his September visit. (By the way, it will also be a good opportunity for many of us to see how the turn coats and sycophants move their bodies to serve the king, a rare opportunity to observe first hand the chaplusi and chakari).
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Posted on 08-28-05 9:00
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Good old Nepe? so much entertainment at no cost : ) For a delusional sociopath like yourself, your existence on a website is the pinnacle of self-empowerment. You cannot actually practice anything you preach, the best you can do is instigate ? a true politician in hiding. If you were serious about your preaching, you?d be living on the Indo-Nepal border, not in the US. You thrive off the subsistence that cyberspace gives you and I am thriving off watching your tone change with each progressive posting. You?re not the cocky little shit you once were and this gives me immense pleasure. As I?d outlined before, you are an individual filled with hate-driven logic that often blinds you from a reality other than which you believe as the ONLY and ABSOLUTE truth. You are not a true advocate of a democratic republic, you?re just another number in the crowd, clamoring for a shot at power politics on your own terms. As I?ve said before this is about fame and power for YOU, not for anyone else, just for YOU. At the very heart of all this bull shit that Nepe is producing is this: Political Parties + King = Maoists are freedom fighters + (Nepe is a fraud on sajha.com) Conversely, No Monarchy = No good reason for Maoists to rebel + (High probability that Maoists will disarm) + (Nepal will live happily ever after) + (Nepe as political advisor to the Maoist Politburo) In reality, No Monarchy = Half the battle for the Politicians + The whole battle for the Maoists + No probability of democratic republic + Nepe continues to live in the US and write his bull shit on sajha. Nepe does not assume (let alone speak) for a true republican democrat agenda. He is one of many propaganda mouthpieces in an elaborate web of self-deluded individuals, filled with hate-driven, individualist political motives (this of course, Nepe tactically denies on occasion, don?t you Nepe? : -)) So, while the thought that I may soon disappear from this site (and stop giving you cause for grief) may be temporary respite, despair not, I am here for good. : ) Answer my 6 questions Nepe, simple yes/no answers. Why have you hesitated so much to answer them? ; ) You are the personification of the pro-Maoist, pro-totalitarian, hate-filled, deception-laden individual. Nothing more Nepe. And I am here to continually expose you for the REAL WORK OF FRAUD that you are.
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Posted on 08-28-05 9:07
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HAhahahahah!!!! Good laugh Bihan. You can take the opportunity to ask Gyanendra whatever you'd like. But let me take this opportunity to ask you just one question... how utterly devoid of common-sense do you think we are? I don't know about any other sycophants but one seems guaranteed... an imposter with the name "Bihan" written all over it, sucking up to the King and his entourage. Friend, you're insulting your own intelligence. Please do something about this and save yourself. Anti_G
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Posted on 08-28-05 9:44
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Miss Anti_G, सुश्रीजी कुरा के भने नि तपाईँ नेपेको तर्कसित असहमत हुनुन्छ, ठिकै होला/नहोला, त्यो त कुनै नौलो कुरा भएन। तर तपाईँका बिचारहरु चैँ के नि? खोई कति दिन भो कुनै धागोमा पनि मैले प्रस्ट पाउन सकिन त। यस्तो पनि कुनै तरिका हो? मान्छेको ट्याम मात्रै खाइदिनी भन्या?
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Posted on 08-30-05 12:21
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Bihan, Were you wishing it before coming true or after ? Pennsylvania Hotel. That's the place. Let's see if the guest can put on a smile (which he never had in the first place) after being welcomed by black flags.
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Posted on 08-30-05 12:34
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And all good ol' pahileko akhil, ahileko maoist, nepe, can do to PSC'is griiling question is smile. Yes, yes, nepe ustad smile.
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Nepe
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Posted on 08-30-05 1:21
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What question from PSCji is left, Nemesis ? I have aswered to each and every quetion PSC raised, from chances of the Maoists to surrender to the King to the continuing the Golden History of Shah Kings as a reason to save the monarchy.
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Posted on 08-30-05 1:30
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Nepe, Diplomacy Chilomacy...he he You are like the king of Ducking bullets. phuuuun phuuun. Key Question ...what questions hoina ta LAAAZ NABHAYEKO BHUSHYA KUKUR !! Next thing you know he will be saying REPUBLIC REY ?????? What REPUBLIC KEYKO REPUBLIC NI ? he he Mailey Bhaneeko nai CHAINA....he he heh ! LIAR LIAR
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Posted on 08-30-05 1:33
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Good points highfly, "1. Monarchy will never give up throne without a bloodbath. 2. Maoists if they compromise with poltical parties and fight to bring republic. There will be communism. SO WHERE IS THE DEMOCRATIC FORCE WHO IS GONNA DEFEAT BOTH COMMUNISTS AND MONARCHY?? WHAT ABOUT THE COLAPSE OF MONARCHY AND RISE OF MAOISM?? " We all should beware of these facts !
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Posted on 08-30-05 2:46
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Nepe - You did try to give answer to some of my questions and some of your thoughts against Maoist are convincing. However, Some of my questions are still unanswered or haven't got convincing answers, which are- 1) Do you think Maoists will easily agree to your kind of republicanism while they are fighting for their kind of republicanism? You have to keep in mind that Maoist raised arms while democartic forces running the country. 2) Which one you prefer given the choice - constitutional monarchy or Maoists kind of republicanism - as these are basically two choices. Your kind of republicansim will neither people nor Maoists will accept. If you think your kind of republicanism is still possible then that is no more than "day dreaming" in present context. Maoist will once gain foothold they will kick the political parties out. Main threats for Maoist are Monarchy and RNA. Maoist can easily take on political parties. 3) What are the outcomes do you expect out of "negative appraoch" of protesting the King in NY while there are positive awys of expressing grievances? 4) You made a joke of "golden history of Shaha Dynasty". Have you ever thought of unified Nepal without their able leadership? Do you think Nepal would have pride and glory of an independent Country (never being under any colonial power) without their contribution? Ofcourse, brave nepali people fought for this but under the leadership of Shaha monarchy. Even personality like BP, PLS, BRB etc have acknowledged this fact. Otherwise, we would have part of one of the State of India (West Bengal, Bihar or UP) not even a state!!! We must not forget our history. Even if you honestly analyze the political development from 2007 to 2017, and 2047 to 2058 you will get answer why the King had to take a bold step. Obviously such steps are unpopular to and not welcomed by those who are real players (culprits) of those era. 5) Just criticizing blindly for the sake of doing so will not serve any purpose. The protest you guys are organizing might help corrupt leaders but it will not help in any case to ordinary people of Nepal. You might impress organization like AI, HRW, ICG, ICJ etc but it will not impress peace loving people back in Nepal. 6) Step by Step and gradual change is what is required for smooth transition. The result of Maoist insurgency is that they hastily wanted to achieve their ultimate goal that is why Nepal had to bare so much destruction of lives and national properties.
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Posted on 08-30-05 3:34
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Guys, I will be there to through rotten eggs on Gyneko Taukoma! He is treating Nepali People as people of medieval age. Did you guys see his recent interview, I found he is not even suitable for VDC chairman, desh chalauchhu bhanchha...Ch*kama ghocho unera lakhatnu parchha yeslai.
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Posted on 08-30-05 5:36
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PSCji wrote: >1) Do you think Maoists will easily agree to your kind of republicanism >while they are fighting for their kind of republicanism? As I have repeated for umpteenth time, The chances that the Maoists will agree to disarm for a Democratic republic = 99% The chances that the Maoists will agree to disarm for C. Monarchy = 1% So, yes, in terms of LIKELIHOOD, the answer to your question is YES. *** *** *** >2) . . . . If you think your kind of republicanism is still possible then >that is no more than "day dreaming" in present context. Let's see what kind of daydreaming it is. Support to a democratic republic: NC: very close to YES UML: YES (just last week) Civil society: Majority YES (and growing) The Maoists: YES YES YES Diaspora: Majority YES (check out data on rallies) International community: We don't mind. RNA: If and when the King flees, we will side with the parties (common sense) Daydreaming ? Of course, because we are awakening for good. *** *** *** >4) . . . Shah dynasty. . . Have you ever thought of unified >Nepal without their able leadership? This is funny. Do you think we (the land and people) would have been perished ? We would still be here and be proud of whatever coarse the history had taken. Do you think, had our history been different, you and I would be grieving today ? If not, what's the logic of rewarding Paras Shah for him being one with the surname Shah ? *** *** *** >5) The protest you guys are organizing might help corrupt leaders Quite the contrary. The protest will help leaders like Narahari Acharya. Support for the status quo (of now or pre-2005 or pre-2002) is, in fact, which will help corrupt leaders and the palace. *** *** *** >6) Step by Step and gradual change is what is >required for smooth transition. As it is the case, we've gone through exactly what you described. It's been 55 years since 2007 saal and we have walked all the steps (including going back to check what if) towards more democracy. It's about time for a complete democracy. It's about time. Gyanendra can not and should not stop it. Nepe
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[ यो समाचार न्युयोर्कबाट मेरो संसारका लागि प्राप्त भएको हो] राजाको न्युयोर्क आगमन जति जति नजिकै जाँदै छ त्यति त्यति नै न्युयोर्क तथा डीसीमा बस्ने राजावादीलाई मान्छेहरु कसरी स्वागतका लागि भेला गर्ने भनेर हम्मेहम्मे भएको छ। त्यतिमात्र हैन, राजाको स्वागतका लागि भनेर १ सय ५२ सदस्यीय टोली गठन गर्ने भनेर कस्सिएकाहरुले ५० को संख्यामा पनि नाम पुर्?याउन सकेका छैनन्। बाँकी न्युयोर्कका शेर्पाहरु लाक्पा रेन्जी, उर्गेन शेर्पा, छेवाङ शेर्पा लगायतका केही व्यक्तिहरु निक्कै हौसिएर लागेका छन्। त्यसो त न्युयोर्कका नेत्रलाल श्रेष्ठ, श्रीप्रसाद पराजुली, एमालेको अनुशासन कारवाहीमा परेर अमेरिका हानिएका युवराज गुरुङ छन् भने डीसीमा रहेका पञ्च दीलनाथ गिरीको नाम संयोजकमा राख्न खोजिएकोमा शेर्पाहरुले विरोध जनाएका छन्। तिब्बतियनहरुलाई भेला गरेर राजाको स्वागतका लागि भीड जम्मा गर्न लागि पर्ने हामी संयोजक बन्ने बेलामा भने गिरीहरुको नाम त्यो हुनै सक्दैन भनेर न्युयोर्कका शेर्पाहरुले विरोध जनाएका छन्। ज्ञानेन्द्रको नजिक हुने कुरामा पछि पो परिने हो कि भन्दै डीसीमा रहेका राजावादीहरु दिलनाथ गिरी तथा गोविन्द गिरीहरु अगस्ट २८ तारिख हानिएर न्युयोर्क पुगेर आफ्नो उपस्थिति जनाएका छन्। अमेरिकामा राजालाई के आधारमा स्वागत गर्ने भनेर अलमलमा परेका राजावादीहरुले हिन्दू महासंघका तर्फबाट स्वागत गर्नका लागि भरत केशरीहरुले हाल अमेरिकामा आफ्नो छोरा भेट्न आइपुगेका विश्व हिन्दू परिषद्का सदस्य गोपालकृष्ण खरेललाई राजाको स्वागतार्थ लागि अर्?हाएका भए पनि खरेल अमेरिकामा राजाका लागि आफूले राजालाई फकाएर प्रजातन्त्र फिर्ता देऊ मात्र भन्न सक्ने तर आफू अमेरिकामा घुम्न आएकाले अरु केही गर्न नसक्ने भन्दै पन्छिन खोजेका छन्। डीसी क्षेत्रका हिन्दू महासंघसँग आफूलाई सम्लग्न बताउने अध्यक्ष अच्युत श्रेष्ठलाई खोजी गरिएको भए पनि श्रेष्ठ विगत चार पाँच महिनादेखि नेपालमै भएकाले त्यसका लागि समेत उनीहरुले मान्छे पाउन सकेका छैनन्। त्यसो त त्यही मौका पारेर केही भरतकेशरीका समुहहरु शान्तिको कलश बोकेर न्युयोर्क पनि उपस्थिति हुने भएका छन्। त्यतिमात्र हैन न्युयोर्कमा राजाको लागि स्वस्ती शान्ति पाठका लागि डीसीस्थित पशुपति बुद्ध मन्दिरका पुजारीलाई आग्रह गरिएको भए पनि उनले आफू न्युयोर्क जान नपाउने जानकारी दिएका छन्। उता स्वागतार्थ खटिएका शेर्पाहरुले भने यो राजाको विरोध गर्नेहरु भनेका सबै बाहुन क्षेत्री र पहाडेहरुमात्र हुन् त्यसैले हामी शेर्पाहरुले राजाको र्समर्थन गर्नुपर्छ भन्दै सोझा साझा तिब्वतीयनलाई मात्र हैन न्युयोर्कमा रहेका भूटानी शरणार्थीहरुलाई पनि राजाको स्वागतका लागि आमन्त्रण गर्न पुगेका छन्। ती भूटानीहरुले राजाको स्वागत गर्ने कुरा हामीसित नगर हामी त्रि्रा राजालाई कालो झण्डाले भने स्वागत गर्न तयार छौं भनेर फर्काइदिएका छन्। त्यसो त अहिले आएर शेर्पाभित्रै पनि राजाको स्वागत गर्ने कुरालाई लिएर आपसमा बैमन्यश्यता कायम हुन पुगेको छ र सोझा शेर्पा जातिलाई केही राजाका चम्चाहरुले उचालेर अगाडि सारेकोमा उर्गेन शेर्पाले भने विरोध जनाउँदै सो आयोजक समितिलाई नै बहिस्कार गरिदिएको समाचार छ। उता राजाको विरोध गर्नका लागि कसिएर लागेका लोकतन्त्रप्रेमी नेपालीहरुले भने सेप्टेम्बर १६ तारिख शुक्रबारका दिन राष्ट्रसंघीय भवन अगाडि भेला हुन र लोकतन्त्रप्रति आफ्नो समथर्न देखाउनका लागि भनेर न्युयोर्कका आनन्द विष्ट, संजय पराजुली, शैलेस श्रेष्ठ, मृदुला कोइराला, वेद खरेल, मोहन ज्ञवाली, प्रमोद सिटौला, मिङ्मा शेर्पा, काजी शेर्पा, रिङझिङ शेर्पा लगायतका अधिकांश जनजाति समुदायसमेत लोकतन्त्रको पक्षमा दरो उपस्थिति जनाउनु पर्छ भन्दै लागिपरेका छन्। उनीहरुले विगत दुई सातादेखि ज्ञानेन्द्रको विरोधमा उपस्थिति होऔं भन्दै पर्चा वितरण गर्दै आइरहेका छन्। त्यसो त राजावादीहरुमा धेरै शेर्पाहरु छन् भन्ने हौवा हाल राज्यमन्त्री रहेकी यांकिला शेर्पाका भाइभतिजहरुमात्र परिचालन भएको थाहा भएको छ। राजाको स्वागतार्थका लागि भनी न्युयोर्कस्थित मिसनले २० हजार डलर दिइसकेको छ भने अन्य रकम भने आफूआफूले १५ सय डलरसम्म दिने र ज्ञानेन्द्रसँग बसेर रात्रिभोज खाने, तस्वीर खिच्ने भन्दै राजावादीहरुले केही शेर्पाहरु र सोझा साझा अन्य नेपालीहरुलाई ठग्न थालेका छन्। राजावादीहरुले बल्लतल्ल न्युयोर्कस्थित पेन्सिलभेनिया होटलमा सेप्टेम्बर १६ तारिखका दिन दिवाभोजका लागि होटल बुक गर्न पुगेका छन्। राजावादीहरुको ईमेल प्रचार From: Felicitation Committee felicitationcommittee@yahoo.com >Subject: Invitation!!! >Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:11:31 -0700 (PDT) > >Dear friends, > >US-Nepalese Felicitation Committee invites all Nepalese and friends of >Nepal to honor Their Majesties King Gyanendra and Queen Komal at a public >felicitation program to be held on September 17, 2005 (Saturday), 11: 30 >am, at Pennsylvania Hotel, 401, 33rd Street, 7th Ave., Floor-18, in front >of Penn Station and Madison Square Garden. >The Committee wishes you to invite your friends as well. > >Thank you. Source :- merosansar blog
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