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 ANA and AJAY KUMAR DEV. RAPISTS CONVENTION

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Posted on 07-01-09 5:56 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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How could people tolerate a rapist being in such a Nepali conference? Either boycott the conference, where rapists like Ajay Kumar Dev are the members and terrorists like NEPE are giving some talk or, Just thrash these people out of the convention and make the convention enjoyable and knowledgeful. Whats your say guys?


 
Posted on 07-01-09 8:21 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I am of the view that you, madam, might be verging on idiocy. that guy is in jail so won't be coming to the convention. Nepe is jsut giving his personal view. you are welcome to disagree but freedom of speech is anyone's right.

Now if you are asking for an explanation from ANA then that's verging towards some intelligence. 

 
Posted on 07-01-09 9:09 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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pyaari kt,

You are more emphasizing to Dev in every thread, ya, it is USA and he has been punished by law, it is too much to see his name everywhere,

It seems like every body want to talk about that phohor

" Phohor lai chalayo bhane ganauchha" He is more than phohor, so why you want to talk about phohor



 
Posted on 07-01-09 10:11 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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ANA needs to change their Association name immediately.

Otherwise, this ANA will be known as  A*SH*LE NEPALESE ASSOCIATION very soon.




 
Posted on 07-03-09 3:44 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Dear timer,
I respect your view because everyone has right of expression in democracy and democratic country.
But i want some clearification from ANA about Ajay's case because he is related to ANA.
Why ANA formed?Who are benifited by  it?People like Ajay or people like that innocent girl?

Don't they think to write some word to support  that girl who was like dead body for years?

Why people run only after money,don't they have humanity?
 I may not have proper information about ANA activities but this is time to show them
that they are really to all lvel of Nepalese.
I am not aganist ANA but we should not promote people like Ajay.
 

 
Posted on 07-03-09 5:38 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Crackboy,


Definitely, Ajay has place but in hell. Regarding ANA, I don't know it is right place to clarify about Ajay but they also should clarify their stand and give sympathy to the girl.

 
Posted on 07-06-09 8:51 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hi All,  I have known both parties for a longest time. The girl whose name is "Sapana" is not even a victim. She is one manupulative girl who had no interest in her studies. She is a boy crazy. She had uncountable Muslim BF'S she used to bring home( Ajay's Home; while Ajay/Wife was at work) . I watched guys coming in her house while A/His wife were at work. She closed her curtains for not more than one and half hour. They were all older guys than her. I even told A/His wife. Ajay/His wife had a talk with her " No Boys" in the house but still the guys kept coming over. She had several warnings regarding boys but she didnot stop. Well, I called  Ajay and told him to get home as soon as he can. He did and caught her . This time Ajay had a talk  with the guy. The guy later dumped her which made her very furious.She even found out that it was me who was watching her.There were few other Nepali too but noone wanted to let the adopted parents know about their daughter.She was brought in this country by by Ajay/His wife because they were married for 13 years and didnot have any child. They adopted her and brought her to USA. A/His wife had organized a small welcome party for their daughter .Sapana was introduced to all of us  by Ajay/His wife as their daughter. Ajay/His wife put her through College, which happened to be my College too. She was not a studying type. But  boy! she was upto something. She never spoke to any Nepali that much. She never had female friends as far as I know.


 
Posted on 07-06-09 9:02 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Dance Zone,

Well..Ajay is in loosing position regardless of your story being true or false. Nothing Justifies having sex with a minor. It doesn't matter if there was a consent or not. Ajay was not a retard and whatever he did he did it with a full conscience.

There was a link to the forum where Jurors were saying he actually having sex with her when she was a minor on a recorded phone call.

Just because the victim was a "Bad Girl", it doesn't give him a right to abuse her.

He will pay the price for his crime ( mistake )

Sid

 
Posted on 07-06-09 10:31 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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She accused him of having her do 3 abortions. But the truth is that Ajay couldnot have baby for 12 years thats why she was adopted. Ajay's doctor testified Ajay in the court that is not possible it was Ajay who pregnanted her. I am noone's side here. She lied from the beginning. If Ajay was not convicted she would have to go back to Nepal for good. Which she would have never let it happen. Her Green Card was taken away. But now she will get her Citizenship. She really got him good. But the truth will come out soon.
 
Posted on 07-07-09 12:14 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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i am not supporting to anyone here. but, i am clear in thinking that anyone who exploits the minor should be punished.


But, her 3 abortions???? made me think in the logic of Dance Zone. they are not having child for 13 years and that is due to Ajay (if true), then how can she prove she got pregnent?


i guess, Ajay's family wanted to send her back to Nepal because they could not control her. But she wanted to stay in America. Someone gave her evil idea to blame him...........bla bla. ( i read somewhere that when she went nepal, ajay forced her not to come back to USA. i guess, that might be the reason. Because she was not his daughter, he might have felt sorry for her family that he could not control her bad works.)


just i guesss guys. i have no connection with any of the parties.


when i heard that story, i felt really sorry for that girl. but, now i want to wait and see what the court will think about it. i want to hear the decision of court, really want is. If he is a criminal, he should be punished-that i can say confidently. No one should try to distort the fact to save him if he committed the crime. but if she is trying to exploit his good being--------who cares to be damn good for someone else in the future????? (i have seen same story in my neighbourhood but not in Nepalese community. euta khaire le adopt gareki keti thikka 18 barsa pugeko din gaali galauj gardai spanish keta sanga bhagi. usko sangat kaale, khairey sabai sanga.........nakkali thi. yeha yesta kharab sujhab dine dherai chhan. child do not know about that and they think their parents are trying to over control them.)


 
Posted on 07-07-09 12:30 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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whether a girl is bad or not doesn't mean one can have sex with a minor.. like sidster said.. its a crime to have sex with a minor and i did read it in one of the blog not a news source that he admitted about having sex with his adopted daughter.. even if the girl lied about the pregnancy, ajay is still a culprit for having sex with a minor.. and regarding ANA and ajay. Personally i never attended any ANA convention nor plan to but ajay and ANA is two different thing just because ajay (member of ANA) did a criminal act doesn't mean ANA should be brought up here.. I mean there are so many cases when one or two bad soldiers abuse innocent (usually muslims) and kill em... they do get punished by law but we never said ohh the entire army system is fcked up and they should do something about it... there is always a crack in a dam... doesn't me we should stop building one...

 
Posted on 07-07-09 1:13 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Dear Dance Zone,
Your story may be right or wrong but i am sure that the girl was not bad when she was in Nepal because Ajay's families were familiar about her character so they adopted her.
Now my question with u and Ajay's families as follows:
Who were responsible about girl's situation?As a parents why they could't stop her spoiling her character
if ur story right?
Did they complain authority before girl complain?
U said couple didn't have kids for 13 yrs,this was because of  Ajay or his wife?Can u post doctor's report that said Ajay is uncapable for fertility?
Do u  want to prove that USA law(minor sex is strongly punishable)  allows to have sex with minor if she is bad?

 

 
Posted on 07-07-09 1:38 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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She was out of control after she came to USA. Ajay/Wife were so stressed out. What could they do? beside taking away her Green Card and send her back to Nepal. Ofcourse she was not going to let it happen. I attended the court. She was asked questions after questions. Example: When was she raped/how many times. She said she didnot remember, she cant recall. All her answers were " I dont remember/Icant recall." And during trail she had mentioned she was raped 42 times ,other time she said she was raped 56 times. And she was asked 42 or 56? She said again "She does not remember" ,"She doesnot recall". Well I hope for justice. Only god knows who is right or wrong. Yes no rapist should get away with rape. But no innocent man should serve in prison for rape he didnot commit too.
 
Posted on 07-07-09 1:48 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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 3 Abortion charges were dropped.


 
Posted on 07-07-09 6:25 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Wow now blame the victim, out of control? Who would want to stay at home when the so called adoptive father wants to have sex with minor adoptive daughter? That is sick. It was proven in the court and he is punished by law. Child pornography in his computer, that sure sounds like a sick person.

Look what jurors, victims friends and Ajay's friends  have to say in this forum

http://www.topix.com/colleges/cal-state-chico/2009/06/da-nepalese-man-convicted-of-raping-girl

I am just posting some of the jurors comments in the forum.

The pretext phone call made soon after the victim went to the Police
provided more than enough evidence to corroborate the victim's
allegations and launch the investigation. The extensive amount of child
pornography found on Dev's computers provided more justification to
investigate.

There were many, many statements in the call where Dev admitted or did
not deny the victim's statement that he had molested her since the age
of 15.

The "coincedence" of the arrest in nepal was that Ajay "just happened"
to be in nepal at the time and the reporter of the passport issue was
his relative which he was staying with while in Nepal. Coincidence,
that is one big bag of several coincidences... AND THEN, once she was
arrested, his family here in the states started a letter writing
campaign to keep her out of the US. They sent many letters to the INS
hoping that would do the trick. Then several other family members
traveled to Nepal during the court trial to "keep on eye" on what was
transpiring in the court. Yeah, coincidence....






 
Posted on 07-07-09 7:40 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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There was a voice recording of Ajay admitting having sex with her before and after she was 18. Jurors said that sole evidence proved that he was indeed having sex with her.

It doesn't matter how crazy she was....Ajay still committed a crime with having sex with a minor be it Rape or not Rape. You could be right that she was crazy, out of control, and a bad girl but Ajay is not getting punished for Girl's behavior, he is getting punished for having sex with a minor.

Sid

 
Posted on 07-07-09 7:41 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Is he in the Jail right now?
 
Posted on 07-07-09 1:28 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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abortion case dropped!!!!! but who made her to do abortion should be punished or not? aren't they minor rapist. i don't care if these guys had physical relation with that minor with her consent............my point is why did they have physical relation with an underaged girl. Is anything going on with those guys or not?


and, other side..............you people are talking about Ajay had a sex with underaged girl, that's true. but she was her daughter (no matter adopted or not). Daughter bhane pachhi daughter nai ho....... 18 cross gare pachhi pani sexual relation rakhna painna...........   In this case, Ajay is culprit from both point of view............Sapana is also senseless girl (its a crime) who tried to blame someone's abortion to him (it shows clearly that she had really bad intention or feelings to her adopted dad.). I wonder what is going on about those guys who raped her and made her pregnant. Are they free of charge????????  how can court justify those guys "not criminal".


This girl seems too bad man! May god save her "hunewala husband". already 3 abortions in this early age. i just amazed/just astonished. i wish for her bright future. May god show her good way in the future. [i am sure in the fact that her adopted father was bad, but she was no good either.]


in this particular case, she should get justice against Ajay, and she must get punitive damages or something from those guys too.


 
Posted on 07-07-09 1:52 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I hope the comments posted below will help to see the truth.


 


Juror: IF ANYONE LISTENED TO THE PRETEXT TELEPHONE CALL BETWEEN THE VICTIM AND DEFENDANT IN THIS CASE THEY WOULD KNOW THE DEFENDANT WAS GUILTY. HE ADMITTED ON A TAPED CONVERSATION HE HAD SEX WITH THE VICTIM, NOT ONLY ONCE BUT TWICE. THAT IS HARD TO DISPUTE AND IS A FACT!!!!


Sueme: He attempted to pressure her to keep this a secret, even travelled to Nepal to accomplish it.

To be convicted...well there has to overwhelming circustantial evidence backed by few concrete facts.
Money talks. And if you hold a prominent position in society well that's a double whammy. I'm sure he was thinking he's invincible. Is it coincident that she got detained in Nepal for falsified information on her passport?
I'm sure she is one of MANY who have falsified information on passport. But its ironic that she would be held back in Nepal during her visit. Who would have the passport information anyway...parental figure? Who would report this...well, it might be someone who wants her quieted, or shed bad light on her character so he would come out smelling like a rose.
I'm sure these sort of rapes/molestations are going on throughout his friends' groups. May be that should be looked into as well.

 


Wanet: There were many, many statements in the call where Dev admitted or did not deny the victim's statement that he had molested her since the age of 15.


juror: Please believe me when I tell you that we tried every way possible to come up with an innocent interpretation of the statement. Because the very next statement from his mouth was "that means you gave me consent", any other interpretations did not make sense at all. Like I sais before, the entire defense was that no sexual relationship



EVER happened. With that one statement, the entire defense strategy was shot.

 

If he did nothing wrong why was his family so afraid of her getting back here and why did he want her to go to Canada for her education (which he would pay for)? HMMMM, statute of limitations possibly????

 
Posted on 07-07-09 3:23 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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At least we nepali started talking on this matter....


Dear Dance_Zone, the truth had already came out. The Juror's have already decided on this case. They claimed that they had enough evidence to convict Ajay as a rapist and molester. I haven't listened pre-text version of phone conversation. I think we sould listen it first. Forget about how many BFs she had ..... the juror had heard the case and they convicted Ajay. They know the case more enough that us. Reading at the post from site http://www.topix.com/colleges/cal-state-chico/2009/06/da-nepalese-man-convicted-of-raping-girl juror's and U.S. Embassy at Nepal also envolved in getting the victim back to U. S. They also know what had happened to the victim when she travelled to Nepal. The abortion case was dropped becasue, according to Juror's, there were not enough evidences. If you are a close friend of the victim you should know if she ever had abortion. On Aug, 7, the judge will send Ajay to prison for very long time............ 


 



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