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ritu123
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Posted on 11-28-24 12:04
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Posted on 12-01-24 7:53
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Obama’s Muslim-Ban List Donald Trump didn’t come up with the list of Muslim countries he wants to ban. Obama did. By Sarah Harvard How did the Trump administration choose these seven Muslim-majority countries to ban? The truth is, it didn’t: The countries—Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen—were chosen during Barack Obama’s presidency. According to the draft copy of Trump’s executive order, the countries whose citizens are barred entirely from entering the United States is based on a bill that Obama signed into law in December 2015. Obama signed the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act as part of an omnibus spending bill. The legislation restricted access to the Visa Waiver Program, which allows citizens from 38 countries who are visiting the United States for less than 90 days to enter without a visa. Though outside groups such as the American Civil Liberties Union and NIAC Action—the sister organization of the National Iranian American Council—opposed the act, the bipartisan bill passed through Congress with little pushback. At the initial signing of the restrictions, foreigners who would normally be deemed eligible for a visa waiver were denied if they had visited Iran, Syria, Sudan or Iraq in the past five years or held dual citizenship from one of those countries. In February 2016, the Obama administration added Libya, Somalia and Yemen to the list of countries one could not have visited—but allowed dual citizens of those countries who had not traveled there access to the Visa Waiver Program. Dual citizens of Syria, Sudan, Iraq and Iran are still ineligible, however. So, in a nutshell, Obama restricted visa waivers for those seven Muslim-majority countries—Iran, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, Libya and Yemen—and now, Trump is looking to bar immigration and visitors from the same list of countries. Trump’s use of a list created with Democrats’ support is obviously geared toward a more nefarious end. A total visa-issuance moratorium is more severe than restricting visa waiver access. But the guilt-by-association of having a higher burden for entry at all underlies the bill Obama signed, too. And one of the criticisms of Trump’s reported proposal for the early stages of his Muslim ban—that it is security-theater—is true of Obama curtailing visa wavers. Those restrictions were an early response to the San Bernardino shooting and Paris attacks, but in both cases the assailant were nationals of the countries in which they carried out such violence. When the Trump administration announced its plans to issue the executive order, Sean Spicer told the White House press pool that people coming from the Middle East and Africa have a “predisposition” for terrorism. The visa waiver restriction, a bipartisan bill Obama signed into law, reinforces that same xenophobic sentiment. —Mic Network Inc., January 27, 2017 https://mic.com/articles/166845/the-list-of-muslim-countries-trump-wants-to-ban-was-compiled-by-the-obama-administration#.hl1U00ULY
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Posted on 12-01-24 9:26
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Trump's order is much broader. It bans all citizens from those seven countries from entering the U.S. and leaves green card holders subject to being rescreened after visiting those countries. Some were forced to renounce thier green card. please show me Obama saying he is banning muslim.
https://youtu.be/viDffWUjcBA?si=kHCT7J6vzc-yumKi
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Posted on 12-01-24 11:00
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Trump only explanded Obama's policies on the countries that Obama chose. Thank god Obama did not choose Nepal. Trump has every right to protect US citizens any which way he thinks is right. If you get elected the US president, people are giving you that right. Don't be a hater who hates everything Trump does now.
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Posted on 12-01-24 11:08
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please show me Obama saying he is banning muslim
And don't just love it cause Trump does it. So muslim ban was not extreme got it
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Posted on 12-01-24 11:22
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You keep confusing yourself. I never said that Obama banned muslims. What obama did was he selected the countries which should not get visa waivers because they were muslim countries. Trump only expanded the policy to disallow them.
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Posted on 12-01-24 11:29
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Thank you , I didn't say Trump didn't say he is distancing him from project 2025, just that Trump policies are from project 2025 plus his cabinet members are from project 2025. and there is a video of Trump saying it's muslim ban that is why it is muslim ban.
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Posted on 12-01-24 1:29
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Posted on 12-01-24 4:07
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Stop tripping. I never said that Trump did not put the muslim ban. He did and he put the bans on countries that Obama had identified as problem countries. Well not all policies are from project 2025. If you look at policies of Canada or France, you will probably find some common points as well. Plus not all of his cabinet members can possibly from Project 2025. Some of them may be linked but when you are talking about large political organizations, there may be some members who are associated with the organizations who had nothing to do with writing the actual project 2025 dictates. For example, if you join the YMCA, and YMCA has a rule book. It does not mean that you are involved in writing that rule book. You may or may not agree with the whole rule book but you will probably go to the YMCA for the Gym. So don't try to generalize too much just because it fits your narrative. Even if they are involved, it does not mean that their whole life's priority is to make sure that the points in Project 2025 are followed to the T.
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Posted on 12-01-24 6:06
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You don't even know who are his cabinet members, how much percent of T should he implement for trump to be for project 2025? If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and even if it denies to be a duck, It's a duck. If he packs cabinet members with architect of project 2025 is it project 2025? https://www.afge.org/article/new-trump-administration-packed-with-project-2025-architects/
https://youtu.be/BDBGMjbGdJM?si=5O9KyUPeu1RE9mk6
You have already defended project 2025 and muslim ban in your above threads, don't go and edit it now.
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Posted on 12-02-24 6:18
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You may not be good at understanding common English because you keep turning your opinions into facts. I agree with some and don’t agree with some. I just don’t agree with everything just because it was done by a certain party. I focus on individual policies. If you are not guided by reason then I cannot help you. Do you agree with how much the bidens have lied to you? https://x.com/defiantls/status/1863388736144155057 Biden has given his son immunity for everything he did since 2014. How convenient is that!
Step 1: "Hunter's laptop is Russian disinformation"
Step 2: "Hunter's laptop was real, but it's old news"
Step 3: "Hunter gets a full pardon for everything he admitted to on his laptop since 2014."
This is the kind of corruption that you support.
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Posted on 12-02-24 8:11
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Usa has elected a felon to put the white house who is going to pardon himself very convenient but law and order. About English look up duck typing. Corruption https://youtube.com/shorts/J_o7uDuXyyM?si=k2co92u2EmuMKZiV Look up the guy who found hunter laptop had to come to say he found 250 gb of data but fbi got 300 gb of data, I forgot the exact numbers, I am not sure you know what hunter was charged with and found guilty of. Do you remember trump pardoning Paul manafort, look up what he was found guilty of. And other felons he pardoned, he has also pardoned the racist arizona sherrif. But now you will find a way to defend all this.
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Posted on 12-02-24 8:56
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I don't know why you support what you support, but I am not supporting the following anti humanity rhetorics that would put the entire world in jeopardy.
1. Increase sales of weapon of mass destruction to provide profit to donors 2. Destabilize world to increase insecurity to sell weapons, push world close to world war 3. 3. Open US borders to let in people without checking records to increase democrat voters and to destabilize the country 4. Use media owned by donors to spread hateful message and divide people by gender and race 5. Use government agencies to go after political adversaries 6. Allow unaccounted spending in government so that they can reward donors 7. Promote controversial GLBTQ agenda to divide people further and profit healthcare industries 8. Fund labs overseas to test biological pathogens and viruses to be used to create chaos when needed 9. Create money out of thin air to profit democrat friendly corporations and organizations and thus create massive inflation 10. Prevent parents from being able to provide guidance to children to stop them from getting transgender surgeries.
You have already defended these things which are against core human values. Keep up the good work.
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Posted on 12-02-24 9:33
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Show me where I defended all this point Are you sure you got your facts correct? 1. Increase sales of weapon of mass destruction to provide profit to donors 2. Destabilize world to increase insecurity to sell weapons, push world close to world war 3. https://youtube.com/shorts/oNcSsDlCP0c?si=iyvaSEqWQRNCTZqI Also Israel will get free reign under Trump 9. . Create money out of thin air to profit democrat friendly corporations and organizations and thus create massive inflation Trump pout 8 trillion hole in the debt ceiling before covid and look up who got PPP loans https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump 7. Promote controversial GLBTQ agenda to divide people further and profit healthcare industries Who is going to profit when Trump cuts ACA,VA, Medicare, look it up. 4. Use media owned by donors to spread hateful message and divide people by gender and race You mean twitter.com, Joe Rogan? 6. Allow unaccounted spending in government so that they can reward donors Who got most tax cuts under Trump? He is going to give tax cuts to the rich again and put tarriffs on everything, which will result in poor paying more and rich won't feel it, it will be the greatest wealth transfer in the history. https://youtube.com/shorts/1zGK2AosIk8?si=jXJqeIqidXm3Rov- I don't know how rich you are, from what I have seen from your other post you seem affluent maybe that is why you are defending Trump. I hope you get everything you voted for.
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Posted on 12-02-24 2:08
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I am not defending Trump per se but defending the right of the people to live in peace without the threat of nuclear war looming over our heads. The establishment democrats and republicans have shown that they are ready to sell their soul to the highest bidder which happens to be the war machine. Trump is the only candidate who has opposed wars on day one and I think the world being a safe place is the number one priority before anything else comes to mind. That is why I support the MAGA movement. I am not sure where exactly you saw me being affluent. I am neither affluent nor poor. I stand in the middle with peace of mind.
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Posted on 12-02-24 2:19
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Posted on 12-02-24 6:11
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So selling these weapons and selecting pro Israel person is not enough? https://youtube.com/shorts/oNcSsDlCP0c?si=iyvaSEqWQRNCTZqI https://youtube.com/shorts/ulkcxov36nY?si=N3zTv52IdYI65OhV And putting tariffs on everything https://youtube.com/shorts/bjPtX-RvUd8?si=oMTsArWi3kluj-K8 Cut social security, medicare, ACA, raise retirement age to 70. Ya lots of people will sleep peacefully
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Posted on 12-03-24 6:12
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Too much fake news ritu. The propaganda machine has done quite a number on you. Hopefully you will take the red pill someday and wake up. Till then keep parroting the propaganda machine 🍸
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Posted on 12-03-24 9:52
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Yes when it is news you don't like it is fake. Trump already sold largest number of weapons Last time when he was president, he said himself he will appoint the pro Israel guy, he said he will put 100 200 2000 % tarriffs, he already blew 8 trillion hole in debt ceiling which was the largest. He has appointed 12 key people from project 2025. He wants to use military to eliminate enemies within. Turbo charge denaturalization. America is for Americans only. There is no hypothetical this time. He has trifecta now and Supreme Court. If you don't believe me then look it up. You will know who has been done number on by propaganda machine. Be honest and Also make a list which one was news for you and post it here from all above conversations. I hope you know who pays the tarriffs. I hope he does everything he said he will and I hope everything maga gets what they voted for.
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Posted on 12-03-24 8:07
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The topic itself here "Trump wants to invade mexico" is fake news, propelled by the paranoia of brainwashed media sycophants.
Who in their serious minds will ever believe that Trump wants to invade mexico. Trump has a good sense of humor which gets translated literally by the fear mongering media. This has happened many many times but fools always fall for it because their minds are utterly brainwashed.
Here's the reality however
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Posted on 12-03-24 8:27
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I thought this was a free conversation until there is no rebuttal? Anyway please be honest and list all the things that was news to you.
Also trump is a 34 count felon and sexual abuser in the court of law not in public opinion.
He wanted to dictator on Day 1 and he is going to deploy military in US soil in his own words.
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