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Posted on 03-31-06 6:07
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I am so damn sick and tired of goddamn illegal immigrants coming to America in droves like it's their goddamn god-given right. Furthermore, what ticks me off is that these goddamn Mexicans and other hispanic groups haven't even assimilated in this country. They keep speaking their native tongue, and refuse to learn English. They wave Mexican flags, and feel that certain American states(like California) always belonged to Mexico. I have a big problem with that sort of logic. Furthermore, 30% of criminals in jail are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. There is not a snowball's chance in hell that I will support illegal immigration of any sort, whether they be Nepalis or Mexicans. I myself did it the hard way. Let me say that it took me more than 15 years to get my hands on the highly coveted green card. 15 FUKING YEARS. You expect me to support illegal immigrants who just hop the borders or overstay their visas and refuse to do it the LEGAL WAY? No way am I supporting this sh1t. Plus the fact is that they steal jobs that belong to Americans. Millions of Americans are unemployed, and not all of them are lazy, as some people seem to imply. Corporations are complicit in this as well, and they are equally to blame. Erecting a wall is not enough. Sure, illegal immigration will subside to a degree for a while, butthey will surely find a different way. If they can't come by land, they will just swim or do it some other way(god know how). So the best bet is to use the Military to guard the borders.Things are so bad that in some American cities, it is hard to get a job unless you are fluent in Spanish. This country was founded on ANGLO-SAXON, JUDEO-CHRISTIAN ideals, and it should stay that way. I also have a huge problem with H1B visa holders(many Nepalis), who get pregnant here. These babies are anchor babies as far as I am concerned. These people are just using their children to stay here, and I cannot support something of that nature. Furthermore, the reason corporations hire these people is because they are CHEAP and work for less money. Studies have been done regarding this as well. Sure, they make more than illegal Mexicans, but they make less than Americans. This is another way corporations have managed to cut their expenses. 5.1% Americans of working age who are unemployed. More than 20 million Americans living in poverty. Billions of dollars down the tubes just to support illegal immigrants. Most illegal immigrants don't pay taxes, since they get paid under the table. They are a liability to America. Plus, who picks up the tab if they get sick? UNCLE SAM of course. I don't wanna deal with illegal immigrants. I hope I don't come across one in real life(don't care if these illegals are Nepalis or not), coz I will report them for sure. What gets my pants in a wad is that they come here and claim that gringos should be the ones who should pack their bags and leave. Give me a break. America leads the world, and it should stick that way. Rome fell because of invasion. Let's all remember that. I don't care what anybody here says. I do not support illegal immigration. I do not support work visa(H1B or whatever it's called) as well. The first thing America needs to do is fix the 14th amendment loophole. Only children born of American citizens or green card holders should become American citizens. Being born on American soil should not automatically make you an American. That's just wrong. Children born of illegal immigrants or H1B visa holders should not automatically become Americans. This loophole has been abused way too many times. There is gonna be a huge demographic shift otherwise, and it ain't gonna be pretty. Little Mexicos, little cuba--these are some communities that are sprouting like wild mushrooms. Pack your bags and leave this country, illegals, you are a strain to America.
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Arko
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Posted on 04-01-06 5:14
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If you increase your territory by invading others, of course native would wave their flags. What amounted to be half of Mexican territory has been snatched by US in the past. Texas was taken for fine agricultural production, cotton in particular, which turned out to be the major commodity. New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, Utah and Nevada, all of them belonged to Mexico as well. California was taken to make the harbor in the pacific and make US a continental empire. These lands had potential value for Mexicans in future even though when they were taken was pretty wild. So, these all facts prove that US does not have even a bit of right to call Mexicans illegal here. Any Mexican whoever is here, they can take themselves as native more than European immigrants. Who is Thugged out to talk about them?
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Posted on 04-01-06 5:43
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I am a free man in this bloody free world. This world never belonged to anyone, neither you , nor me, nor the United States. Whatever boundaries there exist are made due to force. Why would I even need a visa to enter United States or UK or Australia? rant over
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Arko
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Posted on 04-01-06 5:50
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Posted on 04-01-06 6:41
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"unlikely. So, the most probable explanation is you were also sponsored, and i think you started in pretty CHEAP salary to begin with" Nope, and you are just speculating. Of course it is true that most people start from the bottom and move to the top. In other words, most people start with "cheap" salary. However, what I am saying is that H1B visa-holders do the same job for a lower price. This has in fact been documented. It is a form of slave labor if you ask me. Plus what is the bigger issue is that given the fact that many of these workers are young, and many of them are married, they deliberately tend to get pregnant here, thus ensuring that their children will be Americans. This is a blatant misuse of H1B visa. Of course, America cannot stop people from popping babies because this is a free country, but we cannot ignore the fact that this is happening. This is of course not as big an issue as illegal immigration, but it is still an issue and needs to be addressed at some point in time in the future. "Err whose job r YOU stealing? " I have been an American for a long while. "On another note, what about jobs that should have stayed in America going overseas?" While it is true that outsourcing currently seems to be a problem, I personally support it due to the fact that Infosys, Wipro, Tata, etc have plans to expand globally and create jobs worldwide, including in America. Some of these companies have already opened subsidiaries in America. Let's not ignore the fact that there are many foreign companies in America that have created jobs. It has been estimated that foreign companies have created approximately 7 million jobs. Furthermore, in approximately two decades, India, China and America will be, to ballpark it, 50% of the world's economy. Since China and India are growing by leaps and bounds, their companies are bound to expand globally and create jobs wherever they tread, which is a good thing, don't you think? "Its not that they refuse to learn english. but they dont need to. would you talk in english where there are a lot of nepalis" That's still a problem, you idiot. Many of these ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS and FOREIGNERS tend to stick with their own groups and refuse to assimilate. Irish, Italians, Jews were all immigrants once upon a time, and now they have all assimilated. Hispanics, on the other hand, are a big threat because if the trend of massive influx of illegals continues, Spanish will displace English as America's primary language. NO, this is not a good thing at all. Plus, these people who come here happen to be on the bottom of the totem pole. They are already the poorest of the poor in Mexico, and will remain so in America. Hispanics are one of those groups that have underperformed in America. It is understandable in case of blacks because they were suppressed by White folks for a long time, but Hispanics have no excuse. "Either you are a biggest hypocrite this world has ever seen or youre just a pathetic moron. How did u get a green card here" You are a fudgepacking dipstick. Use your head, you piece of sh1t. Would I be against work visa if I came to America that way, you nincompoop? What a moron. H1B visa holders are a bunch of inept, low-paid, inexperienced amateurs that only serve to make companies richer because they are cheap. They are usually speaking extremely bad at whatever job they do, and they should be dumped ASAP(yes, that includes you, a$$hole). Fuk em. They suck balls because they steal jobs from Americans, very much like illegal immigrants. Get out of this country now. Don't reply to my posts if they bother you so much, you moron. "Ya a crazy dumb asshole mothaf*cker. Ya tell me how ya's parent got into U.S? As an immigrant is a damn right answer." Marshal, you need to work on your ebonics, you curry-smelling bastard. You sound like you're fresh off the boat. Stop acting like you're hip. You are a laughing stock. LMAO, you are a clown. Talk like that in front of blacks with that thick curry accent of yours and they're gonna point at you and start laughing. "Ya a crazy dumb asshole mothaf*cker"? LMAOOOOOO. You are hilarious because 1) you don't sound black even though you think you do and 2)you don't know you're an idiot. Now go back to your job and give that customer his slurpee. "Why would I even need a visa to enter United States or UK or Australia? " We should let Al Qaeda roam free. Why stop them from blowing up places? It's a free world after all. As a LEGAL IMMIGRANT, I cannot support ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. 60%+ Americans are vehemently against illegal immigration, and I happen to be one of them. If you're gonna wave your country's flag just pack your bags and head home and don't let the door hit you when you're on your way out. Learn to assimilate and try to be a good citizen of this great country if you wish to stay here legally. That's all what most Americans want and desire. Being against illegal immigration isn't racism. This is a bipartisan problem that transcends party lines and it needs to be dealt with. The problem here is that politicians are in bed with many of these big corporate honchos and don't care about poor Americans. All these goddamn politicians are doing is lining the pockets of the rich. How does that help America's poor? The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. Legal immigrants who did it the hard way should not support illegal immigration. Face the facts.
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Posted on 04-01-06 7:00
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Even i dont know why this people are supporting illegal immigrants. ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL , not accordance with law.
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Posted on 04-01-06 7:58
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OIE I NEVER SEEN IN MY LIFE DAMN ASS SSSLIKE U. HOW U FEEL ABOUT URSELF. U TOLE U GOT GREEN CARD AFTER FUCCCCCCCCCCKING 15 YEARS. HOW U SURVIVE U ASSSSSSSSSSHOLE DONOT BE SMART ASSSSSSSSSS, WHAT EVER U DO THERE. I KNOW THIS TOPICS DOESNOT DO ANYTHING FOR ME COZ I AM NOT IN FUCCCCCCCKING AMERICA WHERE THE BASTTTTTTT LIKE U LOVES. BUT I REALLLY HATE GUYS LIKE U WHO ARE NOT MORE THAN TRY TO BE SMART ASSSSSSSSSSSS AND SLAVES OF FUCCCCCCCCCCCKING WHITE AMERICAN OR U MIGHT BE ILLIGAL SON OF FUCCCCCCCCCCCCKING ANGLO SAXON
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Posted on 04-01-06 8:40
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took ya 15 years to get ya da freakin GC!! WOW thugged out now I'm wondering what legal way was that!! tried to open da list of different kinda visas, couldn't find no visa that allows you to stay in non -immigrant status. People be askin you "what hard way did you go?" and you be cussin at them!! dude, you need to get ya head staright!! so 15 yrs- what were you doing? 15 years- damn you must have been hungry for that GC huh? For 15 years-what status were you on??15 damn years- must have been real hard for ya?? the bottom line, what hard way did you have to follow!!?? or is it that secret that you can't say it out loud or too embarrassed ?? DUde 15 years and you just have GC, something ain't rite one way or another!! though I don't believe in being in illegal status but regardin the illegal ppl in US (hispanic origin majority) I really don't care and neither will US govt and neither will the ppl that hires them!! It is the known fact to everyone that for labor kinda jobs, they are best suited!! efficiency is what really matters and every party is benefitting from them, govt, consumers, and intrapreneurs. It ain't that they are stealing American's job, American's just don't wanna work!! bring'em niggadawgs out from the ghetto to work and stop providing welfare to buy dope and tell them to stop talkin bout racial discrimination by whites. Whatever happend has already been happened and gone and Martin luther been dead a long time ago!! Bring'em rednecks out to work and tell'em to quit bitchin bout other origin!! Get these ppl do all them cheap jobs that mexicans been doing!! If you can do this, I bet there wouldn't be 20 millians out there walkin withinout no papers on the same street that you and I walk. Its not that Immigration office hasn't brought this problem into govt's attention till this year!! the topic has been discussed since the time America was formed!! more than 2 centuries and yet its the same issue!! So, let them do whatever, the topic will be hot for may be another month and will die till next year comes again!! peace
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Posted on 04-01-06 9:06
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"Took ya 15 years to get ya da freakin GC!! WOW thugged out now I'm wondering what legal way was that!! tried to open da list of different kinda visas, couldn't find no visa that allows you to stay in non -immigrant status. " I didn't get any visas. I came to America already as a green-card holder. Actually, it took me about 17 years. Don't probe me any more on this issue. I did it completely legally. Heck, even the winning the lottery is pure luck and nothing else. I bet my bottom dollar that there are some people who have been filling up the lottery form(whatever it's called) for a decade.
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Posted on 04-01-06 9:46
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For the sake of vicarious thrill I sometime impersonate my superior complexity. I am a virtuso in that. My scripts are flawless. My characters are mystrious yet intelligent and smart, not that admired by public but are in good books of those I need. They are known to a large populace and that's what I call fame. To make my life colorful, I have played a lots of these characters. I have enjoyed them a lot. But life is not a drama where characters are history after each fall of the curtain. God didn't bless me with divinity. My characters conflict with each other. No wonder, there has always been conflicts between superior ideologies. But when they occur in same domain, it's a failure. I am a virtuoso. I haven't failed yet. Virtual is my existence, virtual is my reality, so is yours. Keep alive !!!!!!, keep the thrill alive !!!!!!!!!!. Curtain drops and here, ends my another character.
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Posted on 04-01-06 10:03
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ohhhh for %@ sake,how the @#$& did your ass got here? explain that Mr Legal.
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Posted on 04-01-06 10:17
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. Hey Green Airbag!!! Thugged Out, If you came to US with Greencard .What did you wait damm F.i...f..t..e..e..n Yrs for? Did you come to US with a Fake Passport 17 Years ago? It can be that it took 15 years hiding to get a new passport. Or you won DV after 17 years of Illegel Stay? . It is not logic what you are saying? I did not have to wait that long even I came here as a Dry Airbag?
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Posted on 04-01-06 10:19
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Worked for the US government. Got it? Fuk you Sayami, suck a dick and stop bothering me, you little illegal turd.
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Posted on 04-01-06 10:27
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. America is made by Wetbags, Cowboys, Slaves, Greenbags, Blackminers, Chinese Railway builders, Japanese, Korean and Vietnamese War of pisoners, Fake married Indians+Bangladeshis+Pakistanese, Hitlers enemy Jews, Russian defectors.
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Posted on 04-01-06 10:28
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The fuking bottomline is that there are people who toiled and foiled and worked countless years(all legally, no fuking H1B, did it all from the "motherland") to come here. ALL LEGALLY. You morons want me to support cumstains who overstay their visas or hop the borders? F*CK THAT SHIT. Give me your address right now and I will report you to the INS for sure. Jerk.
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Posted on 04-01-06 10:31
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STFU, twerp. Stop defending Illegal criminals. You illegals need to be locked up in jail and tortured the bejezus out of you till you come to your senses and realize that there is a certain way to come to this COUNTRY. Stop breaking American laws and do it how many of us DID IT. I AM NOT GONNA SUPPORT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND H1B VISA HOLDERS WHO TAKE JOBS AWAY FROM AMERICANS AND LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. That's the bottomline.
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Posted on 04-01-06 10:32
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60%+ Americans are against illegal immigrants. So the majority of Americans are all racist and xenophobic. You midgets make me angry. I am fuming right now.
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Posted on 04-01-06 10:33
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Agreed with the fact that illegal immigration should not be promoted but what has been already a problem should be solved. So, what's your solution? How do you want to deal with illegals? Posting a thread here and bickering with the site visitors isn't going to do damn thing. Do you have better solution than Bush has brought? Can you ship all the illegals out? Or do you suggest to shoot all of them? That's a better and cheaper one - nobody will dare to land in the land of liberty afterwards. It won't be called the land of liberty anymore either.
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Posted on 04-01-06 10:36
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Yes, deport them. That's what most Americans want and that is what I want as well. I don't want my backyard turned into a frigging cesspit. Do you realize what many American cities look like because of illegal invasion? Looks like they belong in the third world, not America. American TAXPAYERS are the ones who suffer. You know why? We are the ones who pay taxes to ensure these scumbags are healthy.
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Posted on 04-01-06 10:43
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thugged out, that was hilarious you made my day dude. US govt dont' trust their own employees and got ya examin for not 15 but 17 years before they actually gave you a resident status!! Worked for us govt for 17 years...humm so even if you started at the age 17 you are are 34 by now!! DUDE, quit lying and try to make yaself big infront of others cause people can pretty much tell where you are comming from by the choice of words you use, the kinda discussion you lead, and the kinda name you chose!! You need to do a little more of homework to make ppl believe that you actually worked of US govt for 17 years!! But why do you care if ppl believe in you or not, ain't it?? Dude, when you spill something outta ya mouth, be ready to back ya words up!! asked ya bunch of questions but you detoured again!! Since ya bitchin so much leme bombard those again!! People be askin you "what hard way did you go?" and you be cussin at them!! dude, you need to get ya head staright!! so 15 yrs- what were you doing? 15 years- damn you must have been hungry for that GC huh? For 15 years-what status were you on??15 damn years- must have been real hard for ya?? the bottom line, what hard way did you have to follow!!?? or is it that secret that you can't say it out loud or too embarrassed ?? peace
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Posted on 04-01-06 10:44
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Here is what I would do: 1. Deport all illegal immigrants. The cost will be huge. But this is like one of those non-recurring charge thingies. 2. Erect a huge wall and place sensors or whatever you call them. Electric fence might be a good idea as well. 3. Close the 14th amendment loophole. The 14th amendment allows anybody born on American soi to automatically become an American citizen. Close this loophole. 4. Deportation should be expedited. That is, they shouldn't be kept her for months and go through bureacratic processes just to be deported. They should be sent back as soon as they come here. 5. Also the military should guard the borders. 30% of illegal immigrants are in jail. Many of them are involved in drug traffic, prostitution, etc. Just keeping these illegals alive and kicking costs us taxpayers. You think it's cheap to keep them alive and kicking? No, not at all. I will not tolerate illegal immigration. NEVER. Took me years to come here. Do you realize what that means?
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