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kaal_ratri
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Posted on 12-25-07 12:47
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AwaTar
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Posted on 12-25-07 2:25
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History is written by the winners. ~Alex Haley
History... is an aggregation of truths, half-truths, semi-truths,
fables, myths, rumors, prejudices, personal narratives, gossip, and
official prevarications. It is a canvas upon which thousands of
artists throughout the ages have splashed their conceptions and
interpretations of a day and an era. Some motifs are grotesque and
some are magnificent. ~Philip D. Jordan
[History is] petrified imagination. ~Arthur Baer
So fu.ck history and fu.ck Dibyopadesh by Prithvi Narayan Shah Kal_ratri don't take it personal.
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AwaTar
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Posted on 12-25-07 2:26
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History is written by the winners. ~Alex Haley
History... is an aggregation of truths, half-truths, semi-truths,
fables, myths, rumors, prejudices, personal narratives, gossip, and
official prevarications. It is a canvas upon which thousands of
artists throughout the ages have splashed their conceptions and
interpretations of a day and an era. Some motifs are grotesque and
some are magnificent. ~Philip D. Jordan
[History is] petrified imagination. ~Arthur Baer
So f.u.c.k history and f.u.c.k Dibyopadesh by Prithvi Narayan Shah Kal_ratri don't take it personal.
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Posted on 12-25-07 4:14
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raju161
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Posted on 01-11-10 12:32
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Long live The King
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Posted on 01-11-10 8:46
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I also was completely misled to believe that Prithvi was really the GREAT until I came across this history log that I postes in this thread:
http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?ThreadID=75855
In fact, the diboypadesh guy is nothing short of a sick monster.
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This is an interesting history read set upon the time when Prithvi Narayan the great conquered Kathmandu valley based on the account by one of the prominent missionaries of the time. I never believed someone can be so cruel and inhumane to cut body parts of the whole population including children, like that Prithvi the great was said to have done to the residents of Kirtipur. This sounded more like an urban legend. The graphic details on the reading however paints a pretty guresome picture. After reading this, Prithvi Narayan the great seems more like a cruel lowlife killer than unifier of the nation. He is a freaking shame on the humanity.
http://worldnewahforum.com/AN%20ACCOUNT%20OFTHE%20KINGDOM%20OF%20NEPAL.pdf
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raju161
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Posted on 01-11-10 1:12
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Julius Cesar was a monster. Alexander the great was unbelievably cruel. Napoleon Bonaparte had a massive contradictions, some think he was a cruel tyrant.Genghis Khan was cruel. Sometime great one has to exist in inappropriate time. Newlynew, i think you are shame on Nepalese. It's Gandhi who led the way for the separation of Pakistan. And it will be person like you who would will aid for the division of country back to those creepy era.
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subrath
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Posted on 01-11-10 1:29
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As said with relevance "औषधी र अर्ती तीतै हुन्छन्। "
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Posted on 01-11-10 2:02
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RajuBro: I too am for unified Nepal as you can see in 100% of my postings but we don't need a monster like Prithvi to be standing in a unified Platform in 2010. I am only stating the fact here that what Prithvi did in Kirtipur was inhumane to say the least and it is clearly documented in the historical logs of the missionaries. Would you not agree his acts were cruel and horrendous? Or you will just turn a blind eye on that since he is the unifier of the country and hence should be exempted from any human standards?
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CyberLegend
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Posted on 01-11-10 2:42
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Prithvi narayan wasnt trying to unite a nation, it just so happened that he wanted to expand his territory and ended up forging a nation called nepal and got credited for it and yeah that bastid! was cruel for doing what he did in Kirtipur. Kirtipureys remind me of the Spartans from the movie 300. if it hadn't been for that one traitor prithvi narayan would have never or would have had been much tougher to conquer Kirtipur.
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Posted on 01-11-10 2:59
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Prithvi got an amnesty when he was defeated first time by Kirtipur. Oh yes, Prithvi was defeated by Kirtipur twice. Here he was defeated and hid himself in a pen( I mean kukhura ko khor) to save his life. Later the owner of the house found him, he decalred he was the king of Gorkha. When the Naya: of Kirtipur learnt about him, The Naya: let him go, saying kings are an incarnation of God Vishnu. When Prithvi won Kirtipur, this Naya: (mayor) was the first to be killed by Prithvi. I am glad that Kingship has been uprooted for good. F**K this dynasty and King Prithvi. By the way, you may say F888k me, but let me tell you I am from Kirtipur and my ancesters were the ones whose noses were chopped off then. And Prithvi did not defeat us as bravely as we defeated the Gorkhali then. I am a proud Kirtipure: proud that our ancesters were braver than Gorkhali.
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Posted on 01-11-10 3:31
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just tells us to be wary of these cruel Kings and their offsprings as well. who knows what kind of cruelty they are capable of.
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CyberLegend
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Posted on 01-11-10 3:43
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Kirtipure being braver than Gurkhas is like saying a mouse is tougher than a cat. only happens in tom n jerry show.
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GuitarDaku
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Posted on 01-11-10 4:15
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CyberLegend, wereyou there?
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Posted on 01-11-10 4:31
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One thing everybody need to acknowledge is that without Prithivi Narayan Shah, there wouldn't have been a sovereign nation called Nepal. without him, we would have been part of East India Company and India subsequently. Whatever we (Nepali) are right now is because of this brave man. and I salute him for this reason.
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Posted on 01-11-10 4:45
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magdadela
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Posted on 01-11-10 4:55
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You know brave and shrewd/clever are two different things. Do not confuse between the two. For 250 years, shrewd British/gorkhalis portrayed Newars as cowards.
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Posted on 01-11-10 5:00
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Posted on 01-11-10 5:08
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I heard about it when I was young from my grand father. He has been dead now for 30 years. Now any modest history book about Nepal talks about two Kirtipur wars and the faith of the Gorkhali armies during these two wars before they succeeded in grabbing Kirtipur. During the second war, Prithvi lost Kalu Pandey, Prithvi's brother (Bal Mardan??) lost his eye and Prithvi again almost lost his life before he miraculously escaped. That's what I've heard. OK I do not want to talk about these old things that do nothing to reunite our country, but when I see some folks saying all craps, I also want to throw in some. Let us talk about reuniting the country. To do that, let us start our history from Tribhuvan. How about that?
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raju161
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Posted on 01-11-10 5:11
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Who said "Newars are coward"? This rotten head is himself revealing this phrase that i never heard before. Don't you think you are coward? If you are newar shame on you. Instead of uniting oneself you are trying to divide us. Doesnot suprises me for you hating King Prithvi Narayan Shah.
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