Please reconsider California. This state had its good time but now it's going downhill. As they say in Texas, "Do Not California My Texas." I recommend Dallas Fort Worth metro area.

ujl · Feb 18, 2022 7:10 PM

Tks I value your inputs but no more Texas for me . I wanna escape far from texas nepali, these peps there are always under poverty line ( mentally) .. dallas OMG big no no .ca is no much better but thats what oppertunities are most importantly people there have some class

kattu tiwari · Feb 19, 2022 10:48 AM

I think thats more than enough. Your wife can always start working when push comes to shove....

Ketofarar · Feb 19, 2022 10:38 PM

How old is your daughter? If she is at least 3, your wife can start working, if you make less than 200 k a year then I agree you are in a very bad shape to live in California.

chicagoan · Feb 19, 2022 11:08 PM

My wife was working in hospitality industry but since pandemic she been working entry level IT (Qa/ba) but either way c not been able to generate more than 40 K working full time so I asked her stay home . My work is pharmacy related, I have a better job offer in california but everything comes up with a the price . My base pay is less than 200k even in cali , I'm hoping to just come around 200k with bonus and everything but it's not guaranteed. Median home price range is around 1.2 million in that area n with this income I feel like I'll be under poverty line . I need to move cali for my career enhancement

kattu tiwari · Feb 20, 2022 1:01 PM

You can stil move to Texas as Ujjwal suggested. If you don’t want to hang out with Nepalese there you don’t have to. They don’t own Texas so it’s your choice to mingle or not mingle with them. Also 200 k will be a decent income there.

chicagoan · Feb 20, 2022 3:07 PM

I make $300K+. I still can't dare to move to California.

hussain_khan · Feb 20, 2022 7:21 PM

what do u do hussain bro??

laffinbuddha · Feb 20, 2022 10:20 PM

I think there are at least two aspects to this Mr. Tiwari's question. 1) If you are moving to the Bay-area especially, your 200k income will not be adequate. Look at 300k+, I suppose. 2) CA has one of the highest income and sales taxes even if you move to cheaper areas of the state. Additionally, you have to consider the quality of life, commute time to and from work, family-friendliness, quality of public schools, violent/property crime stats, local homelessness, etc. I would pay a visit to your prospective destination once done researching personally crucial factors. Research music:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

GeetMaiJawaafDiu? · Feb 20, 2022 11:07 PM

I moved out of California after living there for about 6 years in early 2000, in similar situations like yours. I have mixed felling about it 10 years later. It’s definitely struggle with average income out there . 200k will probably be like 150k equivalent of some other moderate state, in terms of disposable income due to tax and high price goods service. Housing is expensive, so you will be left with very less wiggle room for other expenses. But at the same time , you will most likely accumulate equity in house . For young adult child care expense is another factor, for me it was like second mortgage back then. At one point I was paying more for day care then my mortgage. I was tired of leaving pay check to pay check even after making decent salary. But there is no doubt that climate and opportunity plus opportunity to accumulate equity is huge in cali. Your kids will most likely do very good due to network and opportunity that exist in cali. Your kids most likely will have better odds for success . So in summary, below is my personal thoughts. 1) Dont do it, if it pushes your wife on the edge to make more money and she will end up hating it. It’s not worth it. If your wife is also high achiever personality and willing to put all in, in year or two she will easily make close to what you make, then it’s probably ok. 2) if your priority is day to day life. Have decent saving as safetynet and be able to spend at this phase of life, then probably not north move. 3) if priority is long term carer growth, accumulating equity in home value, build network for business or career , set foundation for kids success while struggling little for time being, it might worth it. Last edited: 21-Feb-22 07:23 AM

meraj · Feb 21, 2022 7:20 AM

@laffinbudha I am in IT just like Kattu bro. $300K is my house hold income.

dhoti_prasad · Feb 21, 2022 9:50 AM

california is one of those states where quality of life will be awful unless ure making over 500k. there are a ton of nepalis surviving but their quality of life is real bad. 100k is like nothing. private schools can cost from 2k to 6k per month. nannies can cost from 2k to 10k. a beer and a burger will cost 30. taxes are high. even plumbers make over 100/hr for this reason.

laffinbuddha · Feb 21, 2022 2:05 PM

lol ... remembering my own quote " you have to be either ultra poor or ultra rich to live a life you want in Cali, others jus get left behind" happening wid me rt now . to make 500K a year, my wife has to bring in 200 K/yr which is not happening in a while . i m livin a lavish life in a small town but my career growth has come to an dead end, i need an exit

kattu tiwari · Feb 21, 2022 2:53 PM

कट्टु तलाई पेच हानेको हैन तर अर्थ न बर्थ को कुरा लिएर आर आफु स्मार्ट अयाश बन्न न आयीजो क्या।

Sanaklaal · Feb 21, 2022 10:56 PM

मुजी कट्टु, ३ लाख कमाउने मुजी ले कहिले ९ हजार को टोयोटा क्याम्री त्यो पनि ३र्द ह्यान्ड किनेर आफै तेल फेरेर चलाउछ? मुजी ताक परे तिवारी, धाक नि अलि पच्ने खाल को लाउनु नि :)

dkhanal · Feb 22, 2022 9:51 AM

Don't know what part of cali but there are offordabke cities like corona, temecula, murrieta etc..there are people making less than 150 I and still doing ok. Houses ate 600k in those areas.

ehho2 · Feb 22, 2022 10:30 AM

Hey dhurmus khanal, I dont make half of 300 k for now becasue I work for university but planning to step in industry /Corp job so 300k if not that far . I m a car guy , I do all my car jobs that's my passion n proud camry owner . If I ever hit 300k then we will see what car next I'd buy. Ehoo2 , unfortunately I have to be around metro area for my job , mortgage will be around 5500 p.m which will be my biweekly pay n have to survive with remaining 5000 . Still under poverty n no saving for couple of years

kattu tiwari · Feb 22, 2022 11:01 AM

मुजी तिवारी, अनि ५ लाख बनाउन स्वास्नी ले २ लाख कमाउनु पर्छ के भन्या त मुजी....तेस्को मतलब तैले ३ लाख कमाउछु आहिले भनेको हैन त.. कुरो अलि बुझ्ने गरि लेख्न त मुजी ताक परे तिवारी :)

dkhanal · Feb 22, 2022 11:38 AM

खनाल जैसी, "२०० K कमाउनेले नि के २०१० क्यम्री चढेको" भन्ने तिम्रो बचनले मनै च्वास्स भयो, यो त मेरी स्वास्नीले हान्ने dilog हो , के थाग्ने आइमाईले पधेरीमा मार्ने बात जस्तो कमेन्ट लेखेको ? तिम्रो कमेन्टले आजको मेरो दिनै खराब हुने भयो । स्वास्नीकै करकरले हुदाखादाको जब चेन्ज गर्नु परि राख्य छ फेरी अर्को थपियो ।

kattu tiwari · Feb 22, 2022 1:05 PM

Lot of my friends have moved to North Carolina, many are planning to move there. I think Texas and North Carolina are very popular right now. I wouldn't move to California as it's hard to buy decent homes. If you have kids and a family of 4-5 then decent home is a must for long term. California is for short terms and when you're single.

frustu · Feb 22, 2022 2:31 PM

@ 🩳 Tiwari, Just the Salary is not sufficient. Where in California may give some answers though. Its the biggest state after Texas...so think more. One need to nail down the place where he lives or intends to live and if u have kids...u really need to think more. Living near big cities like LA, Sanfransisco and any near beach cities will be expensive regardless of renting or buying. $200k yearly is still a very good for LA or San Diago (not near beach cities)... but Sanfransisco is very expensive...$300k might just be a minimum requirement for a family with kid outside Silicon Valley. Silicon Valley and nearby will need $500k as a minimum. But if u r single or no kids then yes u can find cheap rent/house in places where schools are not good. Or, if u manage to live in Inland empire (San Bernardino and Riverside County) You can live a very comfortable life with $200k in good school districts. Same thing in Central Valley, $200 k is a lot of money....so don't get discouraged yet. Now lets talk about quality of life. How do u define it makes a difference. If u want to spend lot of time outside the house but ok to go to beach only few times a year., Inland empire or Central Valley is good option. If u want to stay close to beach then yes u need a lot of money. Also Central Valley and Inland Empire may not be appealing to u because of lack of greenary and lack of...lets say cool happening places like in LA, Orange County, Bay area... Now talk about the most famous thing about California, the Sun...Yes the sun. Near beach cities or in the North, sun is your friend. Good all the time. But more u go inland, summer becomes hotter. Yet, unlike midwest or east, even in the days with 100 degrees, mornings and evenings are awesome....Lots of things to say...Been living in CA for more than 12 years. If u ask me its next to Nepal...

YeutaManche · Feb 23, 2022 4:49 PM

@Kattu just realized u said mortgage alone is $5500...and near metro areas... That means you will still survive but saving will be hard. Like someone already said, still an opportunity to accumulate equity over time but saving will be hard. Add 1.5k typical for daycares. Already 85 k a year and that is after tax... Before tax, it will be almost $120k. Add other expenses... Again my suggestion, stay little farther from big cities to make it comfortable.

YeutaManche · Feb 23, 2022 5:18 PM

I'm moving to temecula, murrieta or to corona cali soon with less than 300k annual income.these crities have excellent schools for kids and are around hour from la and San Diego. Houses are like 6ook. It all depends on what part of cali.

ehho2 · Feb 24, 2022 12:38 AM

साथीहरुको कुराले त म झन् हतास भए, संफ्रंसिस्कोमा " राम्रै गरि " नट " एकदम राम्रो गरि " बस्न ४००K -500K नै चाहिन हो र ? येत्रो पैसा कहाँ बाट ल्याउनु यार ? ठ्याक्कै भन्दै मेरो ऐलेको जब अफर १७० k को हो , अलि अलि contract negotiation गर्यो भने ५-१० % माथि जान्छ कि भन्ने आशा छ तर ग्यारेन्टी छैन । फेरी यो रेट २ वर्ष लाइ लक् हुन्छ तेस्पछि मात्र मेरो base pay २२० k हुन्छ भेनेर लेखेको छ । मेरी स्वास्नीले काम गरि भने पनि ४० ४५ K भन्दा माथि ल्याउने छाँट गाँठ छैन । त्यो पनि ऐले covid को बेला घरै बसी बसी IT (QA BA ) येस्तै ज्याला दारी काम गरेर मात्र हो । WFH सकिए पछि तेती जाबो पैसोको लागि बाल बच्चा भएकी आइमाई लाइ ज्यालादारी काम गर्न आफ्नो घर भन्दा पर पठाउने कुरो पनि भएन । आफु थोत्रो गाडी र पुरानो जुत्ता भिरेर हिडे पनि परिवार लाइ बिगत ५ वर्ष देखि ठिकैको जिन्दगि दिएको छु , अब त्यो ठिकैको जिन्दगि बाट तल खस्किन दिनु पनि भएन , ३००० को २ bedroom मा लगेर थन्क्याउनु पनि भएन । समस्या यहाँ निर छ ।

kattu tiwari · Feb 24, 2022 7:48 AM

Kattu ji..do u have to commute to job everyday or can you do work from home few days a week? Santa rosa tira affordable cha ...I know lots of ppl making around 200k that area and living happily. Yo thread ma ali badta paranoia cha jasto cha cali ko barayma. 500k lay matra cali ma basna saknay bhaya cali ko population 1 mil matra huntheyo hola not around 40 mil.

ehho2 · Feb 24, 2022 9:35 AM

Yes , I have a very labour/ lab intensive job so spending 4 days dawn 2 dusk in lab . I dont have luxury wfh job , tks I'm considering santa Roja , have heard there are some decent working class nepali people , for some reason I have to run away from show-off nepali people because I simply cant compete.

kattu tiwari · Feb 24, 2022 12:24 PM

I was reading through all posts here. I live in a cheaper state, in the south, where you could buy a nice house for 350-400K. I have done few real estates and I think I grossed around 170K. I don’t give a fuck about showy off Nepali. Btw I drive a 10 years old car that I have bought for 2500. I don’t hang around with Nepalese who have to drive Lexus or live a nice house, but could barely afford their mortgage. I ain’t doing it. Also you need to learn to disassociate with them. There are idiots everywhere

Rockb · Feb 25, 2022 3:00 AM

Same here , I live in cheaper side of expensive state . My needs are limited , ride old camry and love to do experiments on it n spend most of my time in labs . But my wife is opposite, she loves being social , recently bought expensive car which is fine as long as she pays . She is amazing but easily gets into show off business . Goal is to keep her away from such nepali peps .

kattu tiwari · Feb 25, 2022 10:57 AM

Santa Rosa is not Sanfransisco bro. You should be good there with 200K.

YeutaManche · Feb 27, 2022 1:05 AM

Yea considering santa rosa , napa etc .commute is the only issue as I'm working 4 days but I think I'll be able to make it

kattu tiwari · Feb 28, 2022 10:36 AM